Opened 8 years ago

Last modified 3 years ago

#4224 new defect

Heroic elephants aren't human

Reported by: elexis Owned by:
Priority: Should Have Milestone: Backlog
Component: Simulation Keywords: simple
Cc: Patch:

Description (last modified by Wildcat26)

The hero elephant can be healed because the healer template looks for the Human class and the hero elephant template inherits hero, which adds the Human class.

That class should be removed from the elephant hero. In my opinion it is okay if healers heal elephants, dogs and other animals, both from the gameplay and authenticity point of view (Human and other mammals bodies work similarly, treating broken bones and flesh wounds would be mostly identical). So healers would have to heal Organic, not Human.

Change History (6)

comment:1 by fatherbushido, 8 years ago

Indeed that has yet been discussed. Also: all champions elephants, the ranged archers elephant, support elephant, dog, trader are Human. That can seem weird. Three questions remains:

  • is a horse mounted by a man an human ? is an elephant mounted by a man an human ? a camel and goods pulled by a man are human ?
  • And shoud an war elephant be an Animal ?
  • what is the Human class used for ?

So currently,

  • Human class is mostly the same as Organic+!Animal.
  • Human become useless so ? or could be use for refining garrison class list: Yes!
  • we should then modify the 5 auras and the 2 templates (healer, chaniaka). The healing regenerating techs are ok. We should also modify some attack PreferredClasses or RestrictedClasses.
  • but then there remain a problem: we should use sometimes Organic+!Domestic or stuff like that else our healer will try to heal domesic animals. Perhaps in fact, the (purpose of the) Human class was that: Organic+!Domestic or Organic+!Animal.
  • hopefully that class is not used by AI or gui code.
Last edited 8 years ago by fatherbushido (previous) (diff)

comment:2 by Wildcat26, 7 years ago

Description: modified (diff)

The support elephant and dog do not have humans in their animation and appear strictly animal, yet have the Human class. I agree with elexis' point about them being organic enough to be healed, though.

comment:3 by elexis, 7 years ago

Using Human Elephant sounds cleaner than Organic+!Animal for technology/aura affect entries and prefered attack classes.

comment:4 by Imarok, 5 years ago

Component: UI & SimulationSimulation

Move tickets to Simulation as UI & Simulation got some sub components.

comment:5 by Silier, 3 years ago

Keywords: simple removed
severity: simple

comment:6 by Silier, 3 years ago

Keywords: simple added
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