Opened 10 years ago

Closed 10 years ago

#2639 closed defect (fixed)

[PATCH] Kunobelinos hero description

Reported by: Haommin Owned by: Itms
Priority: Should Have Milestone: Alpha 17
Component: UI & Simulation Keywords:
Cc: Patch:

Description

I thought the original text was a little confusing, so I rewrote some of the sentences to try and structure it better.

This is the original text:

"Kunobelinos, perhaps better known by the latinized form of Cunobelin, was a powerful ruler centered in the territory around modern day Colchester. Ruling the Catuvellauni from Kamulodunon(better known as Camulodunum), he was a warrior king who conquered a neighboring tribe, the Trinovantes, and was referred to by the Romans as the King of the Britons. The Trinovantes, while having been Roman allies, were not able to call for Roman aide, as they were conquered shortly after the Roman's own disaster in Germania. Kunobelinos died of disease after subjugating the great majority of the southern half of Britain (his coins were being minted as far as the borders of what would become Wales). When he died, his son Togdumnos replaced him, who died in battle with the Romans, and was subsequently replaced by his brother, Karatakos. It is an irony that it was his third son that initially invited this Roman reprisal. Kunobelinos seems to have been indifferent to the Romans. He traded with them freely, but had few qualms subjugating known Roman allies, and even sent Adminius as a fosterling to be educated in Roman Gaul. This accounted for Adminius's friendships among the Romans, and he was given lordship over the Cantaci, who inhabited Kent, by his father. This area was the prime area of Roman influence and trade in Britain, and he shrewdly observed his youngest son's friendship with powerful Roman and Gallo-Roman politicians and traders would be of use administrating the region. His other sons though had no love for the Romans, and when Kunobelinos died, Togdumnos, now king, arrested, executed, or expelled numerous Roman sympathizers, including his own brother Adminius, and the deposed Atrebates king, Verica, who appealed to their connections in the Roman Empire for aide in recovering their lands. Kunobelinos in his own time though was possibly one of the greatest of all British kings. He conquered huge portions of land from originally ruling over only four minor tribes in a confederation, the Catuvellauni, and achieved recognition as king of Britain. This recognition was so great that tribes in Cambria even came to assist his sons against the Romans and their British allies, and Kunobelinos was held up by the post-Roman Britons as one of their great heroes; a conqueror and uniter of petty kingdoms, something the post-Roman Britons or Romano-British sorely needed."

And this is my proposal:

"Kunobelinos (perhaps better known by the latinized form of Cunobelin) was a powerful ruler of the Catuvellauni. He was referred to by Romans as the King of the Britons. His domains extended around the city of Kamulodunon (known as Camulodunum), modern day Colchester. The Roman defeat in the battle of Teutoburg Forest (Germania) allowed Kunobelinos to conquer a neighboring tribe, the Trinovantes, who were Roman allies and couldn't receive Roman aide. Kunobelinos seems to have been indifferent to the Romans. He traded with them freely, but had few qualms subjugating known Roman allies, and even sent his youngest son Adminius as a fosterling to be educated in Roman Gaul. This accounted for Adminius's friendships among the Romans.

Adminius was given lordship over the Cantaci, who inhabited Kent, by his father. This area was the prime area of Roman influence and trade in Britain, and Kunobelinos shrewdly observed his youngest son's friendship with powerful Roman and Gallo-Roman politicians and traders would be of use administrating the region. His other sons though had no love for the Romans. When Kunobelinos died of disease, he was replaced by his son Togdumnos, who arrested, executed, or expelled numerous Roman sympathizers. These included his own brother Adminius, and the deposed Atrebates king, Verica, who appealed to their connections in the Roman Empire for aide in recovering their lands. Togdumnos died in battle with the Romans, and was subsequently replaced by his brother, Karatakos. It is an irony that it was his third son that initially invited this Roman reprisal.

Kunobelinos in his own time though was possibly one of the greatest of all British kings. He conquered the great majority of the southern half of Britain (his coins were being minted as far as the borders of what would become Wales). He started ruling over only four minor tribes in a confederation, the Catuvellauni, and ended up achieving recognition as king of Britain. This recognition was so great that tribes in Cambria even came to assist his sons against the Romans and their British allies, and Kunobelinos was held up by the post-Roman Britons as one of their great heroes; a conqueror and uniter of petty kingdoms, something the post-Roman Britons or Romano-British sorely needed."

What do you think?

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Change History (9)

comment:1 by Stan, 10 years ago

Keywords: review patch added
Milestone: BacklogAlpha 17

comment:2 by Stan, 10 years ago

Summary: Kunobelinos hero description[PATCH] Kunobelinos hero description

comment:3 by Itms, 10 years ago

I generated a real patch to ease committing. The paragraph separation is not yet possible in the civilization info screen, which is to be improved in the future.

However, I'd like a native English speaker to review the text proposal thoroughly. Thanks for your interest Haommin! :)

by Itms, 10 years ago

Attachment: kunobelinos.patch added

comment:4 by Itms, 10 years ago

Owner: set to Itms
Resolution: fixed
Status: newclosed

In 15706:

Improve the description of the British hero Kunobelinos in the History panel.

New text by Haommin, fixes #2639.

comment:5 by Itms, 10 years ago

Component: I18n & L10nUI & Simulation
Keywords: hero description Kunobelinos text review patch removed

Thanks a lot for your work, Haommin. alpha123, who reviewed your text, approved your text saying it was much better written.

If you're willing to contribute again to the game on this domain, you're warmly welcome!

comment:6 by leper, 10 years ago

Resolution: fixed
Status: closedreopened

The translation might be updated in the civ.json file, but the hero doesn't exist as a template, so we should just replace the hero entry with the 3rd hero of that civ.

comment:7 by Itms, 10 years ago

Ah, apparently (finally took a look at this), it's indeed the same man but under a different appellation. However I didn't find much references to the transcription "Cynvelin" Michael added. The closest is the allegedly-Welsh "Cynfelyn".

I should correct the template to use "Kunobelinos", "Cunobeline" or even "Cymbeline". I'll commit that tomorrow.

comment:8 by Itms, 10 years ago

Resolution: fixed
Status: reopenedclosed

In 15759:

Rename the Briton hero Cynvelin to Cunobelin, which is a more common appellation, and is coherent with the historical data of the game. Also fix some typos by this mean.

Fixes #2639

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